世界动物保护协会文章：庇护所管理的指导方针

白露 · 发表于 2005-11-14 13:22

谢谢CRAZY PP站出来帮这些说不出话的小朋友说话,我的狗BOBO去世之前,它一直很努力地呼吸,目不转睛地望着我靠向我,就象你说的:主人！请留在我的身边，陪我走过最后一刻~~~~~！
只要我们都努力过,即使没有完美,也没有遗憾.

MayMeng · 发表于 2005-12-15 13:52

以下是引用[I]闻猫即兴[/I]在2005-11-10 21:46:08的发言：<br>最不能接受的是这句：“在只有接受短期逗留条件的庇护所中，动物在最多一个月没有被领养以后应该被实施安乐术。”

This is all those international or national animal protection soceity do around world,in USA, UK, Australia, and much more other countries, many international animal protection society has moren than one million $ income every year, they rehome about 100,000 unwanted cats and dogs every year, have you ever think of why they still has policy like this? Is it because what people says they don't love Animals?
Basically its the way to copping of over population of pets, the considration is based on the balance of ecology system.

Have you every think what does the over populated cats or dogs can damage the other animals life? There should not only has human on the earth, and should not only has cats and dogs on the earth as well, every being is just a part of the world.

Have you ever think what will those people hate cats and dogs will do to over populated cats and dogs? they will kill them in any inhuamn way they want or catch them for food.
The problem is do we have better way to solve over population of Cats or dogs when a lots of them has already been breeded?

Below is my experience in Australia, hope this can help some of you:
http://catszone.org/content/austriliafeeling.asp

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sandydan · 发表于 2005-12-15 13:54

以下是引用[I]闻猫即兴[/I]在2005-11-10 21:46:08的发言：[BR]最不能接受的是这句：“在只有接受短期逗留条件的庇护所中，动物在最多一个月没有被领养以后应该被实施安乐术。”

情感上也是无法接受这个条件...
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三脚猫 · 发表于 2005-12-16 13:48

[quote]以下是引用[I]MayMeng[/I]在2005-12-15 13:52:02的发言：<br>”

This is all those international or national animal protection soceity do around world,in USA, UK, Australia, and much more other countries, many international animal protection society has moren than one million $ income every year, they rehome about 100,000 unwanted cats and dogs every year, have you ever think of why they still has policy like this? Is it because what people says they don't love Animals?
Basically its the way to copping of over population of pets, the considration is based on the balance of ecology system.

Have you every think what does the over populated cats or dogs can damage the other animals life? There should not only has human on the earth, and should not only has cats and dogs on the earth as well, every being is just a part of the world.

Have you ever think what will those people hate cats and dogs will do to over populated cats and dogs? they will kill them in any inhuamn way they want or catch them for food.
The problem is do we have better way to solve over population of Cats or dogs when a lots of them has already been breeded?

Below is my experience in Australia, hope this can help some of you:
http://catszone.org/content/austriliafeeling.asp

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在发达国家也许这些方法是不错,但在中国,某些环节我们是做不到的!中国的兽医水平和设备远不及外国,他们的存在大部分是为了盈利而不是丞救生命.我们目前不能接受"安乐死"是因为在目睹整过安乐死的过程后才明白安乐并不安乐,那种死前的痛苦与恐惧或许只有被实施安乐死的动物才能体会到!
但这些庇护所的一些管理方法还是很值得我们去借鉴的!我们应该吸其精华弃其糟粕!
对于控制不断增加的流浪动物,或许绝育还是一个比较有效的方法!

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kkkcat · 发表于 2005-12-16 14:27

偶记得以前有位铜子(好象是BOTOU)转发过帖,里面说目前在中国,用于动物安乐死的药物并非国际中指定(或通用\普遍使用)的药物,而是其他的药(忘记叫什么名字来着),所以在中国,给动物安乐死的时候,其实动物本身死的时候并不安乐,而是十分痛苦的!![em01]

MayMeng · 发表于 2005-12-16 15:07

以下是引用[I]三脚猫[/I]在2005-12-16 13:48:54的发言：<br>[quote]以下是引用[I]MayMeng[/I]在2005-12-15 13:52:02的发言：<br>”
对于控制不断增加的流浪动物,或许绝育还是一个比较有效的方法!

Yes desex is a good way to PREVENT over population.
But what should we do if there are already lots of animals?
What should we do if the shelter is already full?
Althought the overall welfare level of animals in those country such as US, AU, EU, UK are much higher than in China, and there has much less animals in those Country, they have more money(1million every year)but they still have to destoryed large amount of animals every year. in RSPCA AU(biggest animal welafare organization in Australia), the offical published euthanasia rate can be as high as 30% for cats. I have been working in RSPCA AU for 1 year, I know IT IS TRUE.
Then is there any reason or chance for us say we can run a better shelter with a better solution and save more animals than those international organization?
We should believe in ourselves, but we should be realistic about our capability at the same time.
As I know, the main stream euthanasia method in China is acceptable to those international organization, acctually I have investegated about it, the key is finding a good vet. If any one have further question about this, welcome to contact me.
It's true no body like to see animal put to sleep, but if any one want to run a shelter for long time, you will have to do it anyway.
if you can't accept this, you'd better don't run the shelter. we has much more thing can to for help cats.

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MayMeng · 发表于 2005-12-16 15:22

Every body please look as this
Thank you
庇护所的替代办法世界动物保护协会指导材料译文，WORD格式
Download address

http://www.ccapn.ngo.cn/resource/AlternativeToShelters.doc

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三脚猫 · 发表于 2005-12-16 23:55

以下是引用[I]MayMeng[/I]在2005-12-16 15:07:31的发言：[BR]

Yes desex is a good way to PREVENT over population.
But what should we do if there are already lots of animals?
What should we do if the shelter is already full?
Althought the overall welfare level of animals in those country such as US, AU, EU, UK are much higher than in China, and there has much less animals in those Country, they have more money(1million every year)but they still have to destoryed large amount of animals every year. in RSPCA AU(biggest animal welafare organization in Australia), the offical published euthanasia rate can be as high as 30% for cats. I have been working in RSPCA AU for 1 year, I know IT IS TRUE.
Then is there any reason or chance for us say we can run a better shelter with a better solution and save more animals than those international organization?
We should believe in ourselves, but we should be realistic about our capability at the same time.
As I know, the main stream euthanasia method in China is acceptable to those international organization, acctually I have investegated about it, the key is finding a good vet. If any one have further question about this, welcome to contact me.
It's true no body like to see animal put to sleep, but if any one want to run a shelter for long time, you will have to do it anyway.
if you can't accept this, you'd better don't run the shelter. we has much more thing can to for help cats.

或许这是个控制流动猫的有效方法，但有很多人还不太接受这种方式！
我认为即使我们没有庇护所，但如果能营造一个适合流浪动物生存的环境，他们是能在城市里生存的！只是那些伤残的动物才真正需要庇护所！
我还是希望能有更好的方法能取代安乐死的方式去控制流动动物的数量！
我发现国外一些发达国家很注重救助动物和宣传相关活动，LZ能提供更多的关于宣传的信息给我们吗？我们很需要学习和借鉴

爱心爆炸 · 发表于 2005-12-17 09:04

没错.当务之急,是宣传.
至于安乐,见仁见智.如果确认是真的安乐,倒可以,但是,在中国,安乐死真的是安乐死吗？在这个问题受到质疑时,相信很多的主人都不愿意看到自己的宝贝接受所谓的安乐.

MayMeng · 发表于 2005-12-17 11:21

以下是引用[I]三脚猫[/I]在2005-12-16 23:55:37的发言：[BR]
我发现国外一些发达国家很注重救助动物和宣传相关活动，LZ能提供更多的关于宣传的信息给我们吗？我们很需要学习和借鉴

No problem, I am study my PHD degree about animal welfare now, I have pretty good access to all animal protection related issues. And I am working for Chinese Companion Animal Protection Network at the same time,
First you can access the website of CCAPN to know more
http://www.ccapn.ngo.cn
if the information on the website if not enough for you
you can send me email.
J.meng@uq.edu.au
At this moment, the first thing you can do is support and paticipate this event against eating cats and dogs.
http://www.gzcat.org/bbs/dispbbs.asp?boardID=13&ID=23679&page=1
Please contact Jecal包包鱼 for more information.
This event has got the funding and other support from International community with the help of CCAPN

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